tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4306753589954666513.post7048949401579936583..comments2023-03-30T12:21:34.989+02:00Comments on Gyllene Gryningen: Addressing the new facts that has been raised regarding the A∴O∴ 6°=5° ritualSincerus Renatus...http://www.blogger.com/profile/16773943810683981054noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4306753589954666513.post-52100010142163001562013-09-04T00:57:24.571+02:002013-09-04T00:57:24.571+02:00I should like to just add the comment that I did n...I should like to just add the comment that I did not "release' the 6-5 ritual. It was published without any reference to me and without my knowledge. Indeed, along with many papers I have made available to people who have sought my assistance, this simply appeared as a fait accomplis. I am clearly a slow learner in this regard but have finally learnt my lesson with regard to other similar material in my possession.<br />I have not the slightest interest in the polemical interplay between rival groups except where it touches on matters of historical fact.<br />T F Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4306753589954666513.post-64156831872433955122013-08-29T13:12:46.195+02:002013-08-29T13:12:46.195+02:00This is gorgeous!This is gorgeous!Celestehttp://bestrecumbentexercisebikes.us/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4306753589954666513.post-5102453852919991912013-08-10T00:26:36.999+02:002013-08-10T00:26:36.999+02:00Very interesting article. Completely agreed the id...Very interesting article. Completely agreed the idea that the materialisticway to inquire history is unuseful form an initiated perspective. Sincerely I believe the key is to restart form the season of Giuseppe Mazzini (and re-startd the dialogue on what we need to interpret for enlightenment.Societas Mazzinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16000297068399724622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4306753589954666513.post-90055164637343067412013-08-10T00:17:52.342+02:002013-08-10T00:17:52.342+02:00Care Frater VL,
The reason why Fuller released pa...Care Frater VL,<br /><br />The reason why Fuller released part 4 of the AO 6=5 ritual was to support Farrell's outrageous contention that Mathers supressed Magick in the AO and took the order in a purely Masonic direction.<br /><br />Fuller, Zalewksi, and Farrell are all three working hand in hand in their misguided attempt to destroy the AO by publishing our rituals, rewriting our history, and defaming our leaders.<br /><br />This is obvious to anyone who has been observing the Golden Dawn for any length of time.<br /><br />David GriffinImperator David Griffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569334890339311989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4306753589954666513.post-73308208232059482632013-08-10T00:07:00.846+02:002013-08-10T00:07:00.846+02:00I have the book where this part of the rite has be...I have the book where this part of the rite has been published, and after reading it, I can easily come to these conclusions:<br /><br />1. This is not a full rite; it lacks of Opening and Closing, and the published part also denotes it is a work in progress.<br /><br />2. The importance of the 6=5 grade cannot be "summarized" to only giving grade signs to a candidate.<br /><br />3. Anyone who has gone through the Initiations before 6=5, knows that all these rites have parts or sections; and one of those parts or sections, it is the one where the grade signs are given to the Initiate.<br /><br />It is strange to me that someone can just claim and full their mouth that a full rite has been published. Would that claim just be part of an agenda? otherwise, why it has been published anyways? Frater VLhttp://fratervl.blogspot.se/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4306753589954666513.post-89494519023510434322013-08-09T18:15:21.493+02:002013-08-09T18:15:21.493+02:00I agree that my comment does not rule out the poss...I agree that my comment does not rule out the possibility that the 6=5 ritual is part of a larger ritual. You are right that my comment is confined just to the fact that the number '4' refers to 'copy no.4'. To expand a little further on Carnegie Dickson's practice. I have many of his papers, both AO and Cromlech. He was quite talented in producing attractive little booklets and he usually produced several for each ritual, paper etc. These are often individually marked as 1, 2, 3 etc. The 6=5 is entirely consistent with this, plus there is a comment elsewhere by Renn noting he had copy number 4. These were 'authorized' copies and Carnegie Dickson did not approve of any other copying. Tony FullerTony Fullernoreply@blogger.com